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By: wolfe

wolfe — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:21:24 +0000

As I read this, I hear Rod Serling speaking.
-wolfe

By: AllyC

AllyC — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 02:02:48 +0000

And Z-They may in fact be silver, but their moral color is BLACK. The black of the moral void. Oh you Space People, emotionally bankrupt and morally in debt.

By: AllyC

AllyC — Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:08:07 +0000

I was hoping it was all a dream, and if not, I was hoping you weren’t involved, Z. Well, then maybe Scully and Muldur aren’t fictional. I must find & alert them right away.

By: zogmama

zogmama — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:45:13 +0000

@Ally: I knew you were going to say that. And those wheels? They’re silver.

~Z~ (aka Eye in the Sky)

By: AllyC

AllyC — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:44:47 +0000

I gotta stop reading the science fiction. I had a dream last night I was in a high rise with this magnificent view of a harbor. Mr. Ally was there, as were assorted other indistinct people. Mr. Ally started pointing out things in the sky: An osprey, thes fantastical spacecraft that were going by. I went somewhere else in the building for a few minutes, and when I came back, I look out the window and there is this GIANT black wheel in the sky, bristling with things that look like speakers and satellite dishes. I say, “What the hell is that?” Here there enters an Invasion of the Body Snatchers-like feel, as mein husband says unconcernedly, “Oh that? You remember don’t you? It’s been in the works for years.” I say no, I don’t know anything about it and what is it for. Then he tells me in the same offhand voice that IT READS MINDS. While he is talking about this, it is rotating in the sky and various instruments on it are orienting themselves to this and that. I have never felt such horror in a dream. It was going to read my mind and all I could think was I would do anything to get it the hell out of the sky…

Please no. No mind-reading black wheels in the sky.

By: Female

Female — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:37:50 +0000

True, it is wrong to exploit the homeless, however, I really don’t see much, if anything being done for them by the government, so I thought, may as well have a warm seat to sleep on. IIRC I also said the bench would give off heat in winter and the excess heat generated would go back to the grid. As there seems to be some problem with transforming heat energy, that can be cirumvented by transforming the vibrations from the person’s movements instead.

My idea was born by the major of Chicago who I discovered had had the city’s park benches redesigned to make them impossible to sleep on and uncomfortable for extended periods of sitting. Sounds like a real nice guy.

By: wolfe

wolfe — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:20:29 +0000

@Z no, I got the context you were using ‘enabling’ in — we’ve been collectively culturally blasted with that concept for at least a decade now.

That said, I don’t buy mabtw as a forum that supports and boosts cheaters.

I think the percentage of men (and women) who cheat varies quite a bit by culture, geography, community, etc.

I sadly agree with Female that there appears to be no significant biological basis for monogamy (at least for women), and there doesn’t appear to be one in nature either for most animals. Even swans cheat.

@Ally, thanks for the additional info on the floor energy recovery mechanism.

@Female OK let me explain what I meant. You’re right, I was a bit dismissive. First of all, there is the really creepy idea of ‘harvesting’ energy from homeless people. There are things we should be trying to do rather than harvest energy from them on park benches. (No, I know you didn’t mean it that way).

Second, I don’t see it as remotely practical. In general, low energy heat (such as that from bodies) is not a very efficient form of energy for doing anything other than providing low energy heat. Without going into tedious detail, consider a nuclear plant (or some coal plants). Notice the cooling towers? Those release heat — low energy heat that simply isn’t useful for doing anything.

Converting heat into electricity efficiently is a complex problem, and one that we really haven’t improved on much in the last 200 years.

-wolfe

By: Female

Female — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:34:16 +0000

Z, I would estimate 80% of men cheat on their spouses. Possibly more. This stat is based SOLELY on observation based on the married men who I have had proposition myself, and those who I know have propositioned friends of mine. Not surprisingly, the vast majority of my friends (early to mid thirties) are not married and of those in long term relationships intending to possibly get married one day, they are both aware that each has cheated on the other at some point and have dealt with that.

IMO, monogamy is simply a societal construct, it isn’t biologically based, and as the human experience of behaviour has such a wide range, it is impractical for monogamy to govern nature. In saying that, if someone makes a commitment to someone else to be monogamous, then that person is a shithead (pardon my French) if they cheat. End of story.

wolfe, you get back here, there was nothing wrong with my statement about park benches that harvest bodily energy. As Ally later made clear, the principle is the same as that for the floors - it’s all about using the energy from human bodies so it doesn’t matter what the activity is.