I guess we now know why women keep cats and men tend not to.
infected women tend to be more outgoing, friendly, more promiscuous, and are considered more attractive to men compared with non-infected controls.
-wolfe
I guess we now know why women keep cats and men tend not to.
infected women tend to be more outgoing, friendly, more promiscuous, and are considered more attractive to men compared with non-infected controls.
-wolfe
Do you suppose the crazy men only THINK the crazy women look sexier….because they’re crazy?
Actually (though it’s not completely clear), the crazy women seem sexy to normal people as well.
And of course this is one of these typical “who knows” studies. Preliminary Czech research, published in a non-peer-reviewed Australian popular science journal. The animal responses to this parasite are well-documented; this is the first I’ve heard about human responses.
-wolfe
Interesting. It’s not that the women become any more sexy in a physical sense, but the behaviour of being promiscious becomes more enticingly sexy. Gee, men find promiscious women sexy, I wonder if that has anything to do with reinforcing to women that they should be that way?? Silly me, what am I thinking, men are blameless, it’s all women’s fault.
Promiscuity was only one thing mentioned. These women were also more outgoing and friendlier. I’m not sure that men find promiscuity as ’sexy’ as many people think.
-wolfe
IMO If a woman fixes her appearance so she appears to be stylish or sloan-rangerish, and is discreet about her promiscuity, then men do not care if she is promiscuous, they will typically find her sexy. If a woman dresses like a skanky ho and is or isn’t promiscous in actuality, then depending on her looks, men will still find her sexy.
Men are biologically driven. I honestly believe that even if men lament the fact that women are promiscuous, what they are really lamenting is that even with so many promiscuous women, they still can’t find one to have sex with. If they could, I’m sure many sites such as mabtw simply wouldn’t exist. The men there can go on and on about how much they hate promiscuity and are really just looking for a good woman, but I don’t buy it.
Some of the traits listed for infected men (”anti-social, suspicious, jealous, and morose”) make me wonder about some of the men on MABTW…I think some of ‘em must surely be cat owners…whatever they profess…
or maybe have partaken of just a little too much steak tartare…
Addendum: It’s logically impossible for me to believe that mabtw members are looking for a good women, when according to their own words, all women are cheating whores and good women do not exist. I have decided to go either gay or become a raging slut just to prove them right. That’s my christmassy gift to them. Happy new year to me!!
Re: Post #7-Or is it partook? Dunno.
@eelfam
No. If a woman dresses like a “skanky ho” many men, and women, will simply treat her like a “skanky ho”. Is there actually something admirable about the degree of exhibitionism on view almost anywhere?
What makes you an expert on the male condition? You have never demonstrated even the slightest empathy for men. Frankly men have achieved an awful lot throughout history for a group that apparently thinks about sex every nine seconds.
The rest of your paragraph conforms to the “they can’t get a root” shame and blame game you so like to play. Keep playing that game Female. It will only make them stronger, more impassioned and more resentful towards your gender. Keep blaming them. It’s alright. They’re used to it. They’ve been told all their lives that everything good is not their doing and everything bad throughout all of history is somehow their fault. That everything about males is substandard. Just don’t be in the firing line when their time comes and don’t say you weren’t warned.
No. If a woman dresses like a “skanky ho� many men, and women, will simply treat her like a “skanky ho�. Is there actually something admirable about the degree of exhibitionism on view almost anywhere?
I never said there was anything admirable about it and I notice you didn’t comment on whether promiscuity matters to a man if a woman hides it and dresses like a “proper lady”. I guess it’s that archetypal male fantasy of a whore in the bedroom and a saint in the community.
For anyone who cares, I’ve realised it’s impossible for me to be gay as I wasn’t born that way, so it’ll have to be whorefest 2007.
Don’t blame me gwallan, they were resentful to begin with and they’re just fueling their own hatred. Women are just the scapegoats for the inadequate comparisons they make between themselves and other men. They blame women because women don’t lust after them. Don’t believe me? How many times have you read “alpha” male this and “alpha” male that lately?
On the one hand they say women are biologically driven to desire the alpha male and then they turn around and say women are bitches for being that way. Well, I’m sorry, but if it’s biologically determined then it’s fairly useless to blame women for acting according to their genetic coding. And please don’t read this as if I have a belief in the alpha male, for you’ll need to explain to me first just what exactly an alpha male is like. I have met plenty of successful and rich men, which seems to be the mabtw set criteria for what an alpha male is, and all I can say to that is, wrong. Most rich men I’ve met are narcissistic wankers.
btw, am I sounding sexier with all my talk of having rampant sex with every man I see next year? Yea, didn’t think so, guess that study is somewhat flawed.
I think I have had this conversation re:promiscuity of men and women before.
Female, I don’t think men find women who dress like “skanky whores” that sexy at all. I know this by the reactions of my boyfriend and his mates should they come across a woman with her bottom hanging out of her skirt and her boobs flopping out of her top… they find it grotesque, and are very vocal at their disgust… and men will generally laugh at women who dress like that.
I think there is a difference between being slutty and sexy. If I understand correctly, a woman with her bottom sticking out her skirt is sluttish, whereas a woman who dresses to accentuate her figure by wearing something that is tight hugging, or maybe showing a small hint of a cleavage whilst not revealing anything else, can be very sexy. I cannot speak for men, but I do think that leaving something to the imagination is more of a turn-on than having everything exposed all at once for all to see.
I also disagree with your implication female that men are driven only by their biology. Sure, biological drives exist within men (as they do in women) but I think that men are also capable of making choices about their behaviour. The male sex-drive is a great and natural thing, none of us would be here without it. However, when men approach sexuality with the mentality that sex and women are disposable and cheap that a product of that particular man’s attitude, not his biology.
I think a very truthful thing was stated recently on MABTW I think the comment was written by Beta_Males_Unite who said that sex means a lot more to men than they like to let on, I can see how this would be true. I understand.
Although male sexuality is (obviously) different from that of a woman’s, there is one fundamental aspect that both sexes share with regards to sex. It is a feeling of acceptance from another person, furthermore the feeling of being needed, wanted and desired is a wonderful part of sex…I think. So when a man does not get sex he feels neglected and rejected.
A male friend once said to me that sex can also be a means of releasing his frustration, sex can be an effective means of channelling a man’s frustration/aggression into a more pleasurable and satisfying outlet. He also added that a man needs sex with a woman to truly be able to achieve that in a meaningful way.
The biggest crime committed against men is to misrepresent the nature of male sexuality.
Luka, that is probably the best piece of writing I’ve seen from you yet, just brilliant. While I agree that sex can mean just as much to a man as it can to a woman, that too, can not be generalised. It really comes down to the individual. Many men simply cannot be monogamous. Sorry, but I do believe this is biological, not psychological and if you think about it, it is far less “mean” to blame biology rather than someone’s soul/spirit/mind for being unable to be faithful. Not that I am excusing it.
It’s all very complicated isn’t it? It all boils down to that nexus of biologically-driven behavior vs. socially- constructed behavior, and what mix of the two is holding sway over an individual. It changes within an individual with stage of life, too, at least in most cases, I would expect.
Alcohol has the same effect.
I’ve always found it funny how once a gay men gets drunk, he suddenly becomes convincingly heterosexual.
Female. Re mabtw. I’ll give you a hint.
LEAVE THEM ALONE.
That place sees many men who have genuinely been hurt by women. What you think of them, their experiences or their statements does not alter this. Like many other women you enter that environment against their wishes. You heap scorn on them. You belittle them. You get right in their faces uninvited and blame the victim. You treat them in ways you would never treat a woman who’d been similarly hurt. You behave in a cruel way to people you know have been injured emotionally. Yes Female - that IS your fault.
For the record
I don’t comment on promiscuity because I have nothing to say about it. I could say it has certain dangers attached to it but providing nobody is hurt or betrayed it’s none of my business what anybody does.
Personally I believe that the number of “skanky ho” attired women is an indication of the extent of the competition between women for diminishing male attention. Notwithstanding womens’ supposed equality in the modern world they are largely still too timid to play the mating game in anything other than a passive way. Even the frequent lesbian posturing is passive. It is merely a display, exhibitionist in nature certainly, but relatively risk free. These are the extremes to which they will go to avoid risking rejection. That remains a male responsibility.
Given we both disbelieve it becomes rather academic as to what is or isn’t.
I’m not a subscriber to the alpha/beta male dichotomy. I see humans on a continuum(multidimensional rather than linear - think mandelbrot in minimum three dimensions) rather than only at extremes. My understanding of “power” and how it’s obtained or weilded doesn’t leave room for it. Most men have the capacity to be the so-called “alpha” in some circumstances and at some times. So do many women. But there are many forms of power and it’s manifestations. In simplistic terms I guess the “alpha” would be the person everyone else defers to. But this can be fluid. Consider a group of people who work together. Often if that group is placed in a different scenario the natural heirarchy of the group changes. This can lead to different “alphas” emerging.
gwallan, I will admit that in the beginning I did take the **** out of them, however, for the last 6 months, it is they who continue to quote my old posts and attack me. Most, I believe, want me to be there, they want someone to have an argument with, to channel their frustrations and to vent towards (refer: Pervert Codrech for further information). I am merely defending myself. If they can give it, they’d better learn how to take it.
@Female.
I’m sorry but you are not supposed to be there to begin with. Of course they will keep attacking you if you keep returning. YOU are the intruder.
Loosely quoted from a US High Court decision on female only environments that, notwithstanding any existing equal opportunity laws, are allowed to be set up. “The presence of men is a “hardship” to women”. The mere presence!
In my sporting days I was subjected to female journalists in the change rooms after competition. None of us were warned, or asked, beforehand. None of us liked it. They just walked in. Imagine a bloke doing that at a netball game.
What is it about people that they don’t realise the men sometimes would like to be able to go somewhere without women sticking their beaks in? What is it about women that they can’t tolerate men having this opportunity while demanding it themselves? Is it paranoia? Do they think that any grouping of two or more men automatically means they’re conspiring against women? Given the vehemence and self righteousness of womens’ demands for the right to intrude in any male space I cannot see any alternative.
@Diesel-Re # post 16, I was staying right the hell away from that aspect of it, but I guess in vain, as you stuck your 2 cents in…
Jaysus…Demon rum…
All I know is that I’m crazy.
Excellent comments. Happy New Year. I had some of 16 and 22 and I now have two monitors. Or maybe it just looks that way. So, no intelligent comments from wolfe here tonight. Just Happy New Year, and I shall have interesting things to say tomorrow. Or whenever the construction crew stops in my head.
-wolfe
who can resist a few quick inebriated comments in the hopes of insulting all equally.
@Female-5 No.
@Ally-6,7 Hah!
@Ally-9 Both are correct conjugations as follows:
I partook of too much steak tartar;
They have partaken …
Thus, your first instinct would appear to have been correct. If you trust inebriated wolfe’s grammatical skills.
@Female-8 Hmmm. That can be taken several ways.
@Luka-13 is about 95% correct, IMO. Superb post.
@Female-14 raises an interesting point. I don’t really agree, but interesting point.
@F-17 is this true? I’ve not observed it, but I don’t spend time with drunken gay men.
@G/F 18-20: G is correct on accommodations etc. Both of you miss the critical point that Female worked very hard to establish a negative, adversarial relationship with many men (granted, not all) on MABTW over the first 6 months she was there. Thereafter, it’s difficult to walk up a wall.
And hi again Teri and AllyC. Rum is demon, no idea if Teri is crazy.
Happy New Year!
-wolfe
Happy New Year everyone.. may 2007 bring you all health, wealth and happiness…but not necessarily in that order